In this episode of And Security For All, Kim Hakim sits down with Ron Zochalski, CTO and CISO of Lake County, for a candid conversation about the rapid rise of AI, the governance challenges organizations face, and why human oversight remains critical in an increasingly automated world.

Together, they explore:

• The growing need for AI governance and accountability
• How AI is changing cybersecurity—for both defenders and attackers
• Emerging risks surrounding deepfakes, biometric data, and AI-powered cybercrime
• The reality of managing cybersecurity in government and critical infrastructure
• Third-party risk, ransomware lessons learned, and protecting sensitive data
• Why AI should be viewed as a capacity amplifier—not a replacement for human judgment
• The future of the CISO role and ...