Episode notes
In this episode of Firing On All Syllables, Gary Kalaci speaks with Etienne van Eck, who served as a close protection officer to Nelson Mandela during South Africa’s transition from apartheid to democracy.
Drawing on firsthand experience during one of the most consequential periods in modern leadership, Etienne reflects on judgment under pressure, the discipline of restraint when power is absolute, and how fragile public trust truly is when every decision is visible.
The conversation connects Mandela’s example to the realities leaders face today: moral complexity, heightened scrutiny, and the responsibility that comes with leadership in uncertain times.
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