The Relationships We Live In

The Relationships We Live In

by Guillermo M. Cancio-Bello
Season 1
Erik Thompson | The Universal Self, Meditation, and Transcendence
In this episode Erik Thompson and I explore meditation, transcendence, and the idea of the Universal Self. Erik is the founder and president of Thompson Leadership Development, an executive coaching firm designed to assist high performing teams in becoming exceptional leaders together. Trained as a leadership psychologist, Erik Thompson’s focus is on the DNA of successful teams. He uses this knowledge to challenge high-performing leaders to expand their impact. For 20 years Erik Thompson has brought precision tools from the science of leadership development to his executive clients.. He developed the “Leading by Managing Self” course, which has been embraced by over 40 companies across the United States. Through thousands of meaningful conversations with senior leaders, Erik was inspired to launch the LeaderSight interview podcast. LeaderSight explores topics ranging from CEO succession to the art of coaching and the profound lessons we learn from personal loss. Beyond his work in leadership development, Erik Thompson is deeply invested in family health and well-being. He is a co-founder and Executive Director of the Vermont Center for Family Studies, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering family leaders to cultivate stability, maturity, responsibility, and effective communication within their families. As a 40-year practitioner of Transcendental Meditation, Erik understands the value of presence in leadership. When he’s not immersed in the world of leadership development, you might find him playing pickleball, cheering on his daughter’s high school basketball team, or reading on his porch. The picturesque mountains of Vermont are his home, where he enjoys hiking alongside his wife Sarah, and their daughters, nephews, and nieces.
Ep.18 - Dr. Meredith Elkins | Parenting Anxiety: breaking the cycle of worry and raising resilient kids
In this episode Dr. Meredith Elkins and I discuss the concepts and ideas in her latest book "Parenting Anxiety: breaking the cycle of worry and raising resilient kids. Dr. Meredith Elkins is a clinical psychologist who helps kids, teens, and parents break the cycle of anxiety and build resilience. She co-leads the McLean Anxiety Mastery Program at McLean Hospital and is a faculty member at Harvard Medical School. Some of her most meaningful work comes from supporting families as they navigate big feelings. Her approach blends science-backed strategies with compassion, making it easier for parents to feel confident and for kids to grow braver every day. You can learn more about Dr. Elkins and her work by visiting https://www.meredithelkinsphd.com. Her book is available on Amazon, https://a.co/d/08ZyrMtV\
Ep. 17 - Michael Long | An Exploration on Taming Dopamine, the "Molecule of More"
In this episode writer, comedian, teacher, and systemic thinker, Michael Long and I discuss his recent books "The Molecule of More" and "Taming the Molecule of More." We explore how dopamine actually works, how that differs from the popular understanding, how it influences human thinking and behavior, and what people can do to gain more control of how they think and behave so they can live more thoughtfully and embodied in the present. Mike Long is the author of “Taming the Molecule of More” and co-author of “The Molecule of More,” the international bestseller that for the first time explained the profound ways dopamine affects love, ambition, commitment, and politics. Trained as a physicist, he’s also a playwright and a DC-based speechwriter who teaches writing at Georgetown University. Personal Website: mikelongonline.com Book Website: tamingthemolecule.com
Ep. 16 - Randy Frost | Becoming a researcher of Yourself, your Family, and Society
In this episode, Randy Frost, former director of the Bowen Center in Georgetown, discusses the challenges of family research, and the benefits of taking on a research position in your own life, your relationships, and your role in society. We explore marriages, parenting, and civic responsibility.
Ep 15. - Andrea Schara | Exploring Stories, the Life of Dr. Murray Bowen, and the Struggle of Differentiating a Self
In this episode Andrea Schara discusses her relationship to Murray Bowen, his impact on the field of Family Therapy, the importance of stories in the lives of individuals and as a therapeutic vehicle, and how humor is essential for living in a challenging world. Andrea has a forthcoming book entitled "When Your Brother Tells You He's Jesus Christ What Will You Do" where she dives in to the stories that shaped her personally and professionally. She is a systems coach and you can find her at https://www.andreaschara.com/ https://yourmindfulcompass.com Faculty http://navigatingsystemsdc.com/ Andrea's book is available on Amazon: Your Mindful Compass: Breakthrough Strategies For Navigating Life/Work Relationships
Ep. 14 - Peggy Chan | Marriages and In-Laws, Retirement, and Social shifts in Hong Kong
In this episode, Peggy Chan, director of program at the ISS Family Institute, shares her experience working at the relationship between young married couples and their in-laws, how she is thinking about her own retirement, and how the exodus of a younger generation from Hong Kong has impacted both that generation and the generation above that finds themselves suddenly bereft of the relationships that were so central to their lives.
Ep. 13 - Jenny Brown | Parenting, Relationship Patterns, Writing, and Intentional Hope
Jenny Brown is the founder and former director of the Bowen Center in Australia. She is the author of the book “Growing Yourself Up: how to bring your best to all of life’s relationships” and has a forthcoming book “The Parenting Paradox: how to love your children by giving them space to grow,” set for release in June 2026. She is the architect of the Parent Hope Project which applies Bowen Theory concepts to parenting, focusing on empowering and supporting parents in today’s complex world. She lives, works, and writes, in Sydney, Australia. The links to access all of Jenny Brown’s work are below: Parent Hope Project Self-Paced Online Training Parent Hope Free Resources Jenny Browns Books (including the Parent Hope Manual) Jenny Browns Articles
Ep. 12 - Kathleen Cauley | Exploring Relationship System, Couples Counseling, Personal Growth, and Vocations
In this episode with Kathleen Cauley we explore relationship systems, couples counseling, paths of personal growth, and the concept of vocation. Kathleen Cotter Cauley, M.Ed., LMFT, is in private practice in Falls Church, Virginia. She is licensed as a Marriage and Family Therapist in Florida, Virginia, and the District of Columbia. Ms. Cauley was born and raised as the third of four children in Duluth, Minnesota. She moved with her family to Pittsburgh, Pa., for high school, and attended college at Saint Mary’s College, Notre Dame, Indiana. She moved back to Pittsburgh in 1972 and worked with Catholic Charities until 1985 (as an adoption caseworker, therapist, and Deputy Director of a branch office). Ms. Cauley got her Masters Degree in Counselor Education at the University of Pittsburgh in 1977. In 1980, while working at Catholic Charities, she sought out a supervisor who had trained at the Bowen Center . She attended the training program at the Western Pennsylvania Family Center while living in Pittsburgh. She and her husband moved to Tampa, Florida, and lived there from 1985 until 2001. Ms.Cauley was in private practice , and still has remote work with clients . She was involved in the founding of the Florida Family Research Network with other Bowen colleagues, and is on their Advisory Board. Since her move to Virginia in 2001, in addition to private practice, Ms. Cauley was on the faculty of the Extraordinary Leadership Seminars from 2003-2016. She serves as faculty for the graduates’ further study in the Systems Leadership Seminar . Ms. Cauley joined the faculty at the Bowen Center in 2012 and serves as Chair of Outreach. Ms.Cauley has published two book chapters: “Triangles and Stepfamilies” ( Titelman, Editor: Triangles, a Bowen Family Systems Perspective, 2005) and “Bridging 65 years of Cut Off” ( Gilbert: The Cornerstone Concept, 2008). Her volunteer work has included participation on boards dealing with the Sex Abuse scandals of the Catholic Church (the Review Board for the Diocese of Saint Petersburg, Fl. ( 2001-present), The Jesuit Maryland Province Review Board ( 2007- 2016), and the Arlington Diocese Advisory Board ( 2012- 2014). Ms.Cauley is a volunteer for Southeastern Guide Dogs, Inc. for over 30 years.
Ep. 11 - John Bell | Systems Thinking | Congregations | Ministry | Non-profits | Spirituality
In this episode, John Bell and I discuss bringing systems thinking to congregations, the ministry, and non-profits. We share personal stories of growth, and explore the concept of spirituality as it relates to the present and to people's lives. John Bell is an ordained United Methodist pastor. John became interested in Bowen theory after hearing Peter Steinke say, "Good leadership rises above the anxiety of the group." He has spent the last 30 years putting these theoretical words to practice in congregational, family and civic life. In addition to training and mentoring clergy, John works with non-profit leaders and organizations who have an interest in sustainable and adaptive practices. John and his wife Alison work and live near Chicago, IL and have three grown children.
Ep. 10 - John & Nick Engels | Systems thinking, Organizational and Leadership Coaching, and Succession
John & Nick Engels are the founder and partner of Leadership Coaching Inc. which helps leaders manage relationship opportunities and challenges, promote self-clarity, and reduce anxiety in their workplaces and families. https://www.leadershipcoachinginc.com/ In this episode John and Nick use real life examples to illustrate the challenges they face in their work with leaders and organizations, and how they work at these issues from a novel perspective using systems thinking. As a father and son partnership they also discuss their own journey of succession in their family business, highlighting how openness and the willingness to be a self with the other are key. John Engels (https://www.leadershipcoachinginc.com/john-engels) launched Leadership Coaching, Inc. (LCI) in 1996 with a bold mission to strengthen families and family enterprises, and build healthy leadership teams across every sector of society. Nearly three decades later, LCI stands as a trusted global resource for leadership, rooted in self-awareness, self-responsibility, advanced relationship skills, and actionable coaching strategies. Nicholas Engels (https://www.leadershipcoachinginc.com/nicholas-engels) is a founder, master facilitator, and leadership strategist who believes impact at scale begins with people at depth: principled candor, clear roles, and earned connection. For almost two decades, he has been the trusted confidant of family enterprises, professional firms, ownership groups, and C-suites seeking to upgrade their relational operating system. His work rewires how leaders see themselves, each other, and the systems they steward.
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