On this episode of Dunes and Tunes, I chatted with Xavier Ocegueda, the drummer for badass bands Tourists and WISEMANSAY. Xavier is such a great drummer and he is always smiling every time I see him play. Listen in to hear more about his bands, musical history, and passion for drumming.

https://www.instagram.com/xavdrums/

Thanks to Nick Spalding for editing this episode of the podcast, as well as writing our theme song “The Dunes”!!