Episode 2 - A Conversation about ...

Episode 2 - A Conversation about Masculinity

Downtime by Lily Laskaris, Anatoly Sawenko and Emily Sweeney
S1
Sep 14, 2026
50:25

Episode notes

In this episode of Downtime, Toly, Lily and Emily explore a deceptively simple question: what does it actually mean to be masculine?

Moving across history and cultures, the conversation examines masculinity not as a fixed set of qualities, but as something societies have continually constructed, challenged and reinvented. From Ancient Greece and Rome to medieval ideals of warriors, poets and lovers, the Industrial Revolution and the rise of the male breadwinner, they explore how ideas about what makes a “real man” have changed dramatically over time.

The discussion considers how industrialisation, capitalism, religion, empire and patriarchy helped create increasingly rigid divisions between masculinity and femininity — and how qualities such as strength, reason, gentleness, emotion, beauty and affection came to be divided along gender lines.

Along the way, the group discusses the idea of “masculinity threat,” the pressure men can experience when they feel their masculinity is being questioned, and how masculine ideals have historically been used to exclude or diminish women, gay men, colonised peoples and even other groups of men.

But are there really masculine and feminine qualities at all — or simply human qualities that cultures have decided to label?

From colourful kings and Romantic poets to Victorian breadwinners, British imperialism, childhood gender expectations and why male friends in some cultures comfortably hold hands, this episode asks how much of masculinity is truly natural — and how much we learn from the world around us.

Ultimately, the conversation asks whether expanding our understanding of masculinity might allow people to live with greater freedom, affection and individuality — or whether, one day, we may no longer need the categories of “masculine” and “feminine” at all.