Pastoral ministry is deeply rewarding — but it can also be deeply lonely.

In this episode of Deep Roots, Jonny Reid sits down with Andrew Nicholls, Director of Pastoral Care at Oak Hill College, to explore what it really takes to sustain ministry over the long haul.

Andrew shares his journey from medicine to pastoral ministry, the lessons he learned about truly knowing people (not just preaching to them), and insights from a five-month study leave in South Africa, Kenya, the United States, and Australia.

They discuss:

Why pastors must understand people — not just theology

The difference between warning the idle, encouraging the disheartened, and helping the weak

The loneliness many ministers experience

The growing model of pastoral supervision in Sydney

How churches might better sustain their ...