Matt sits down to talk with musician Derek Evry about the Lawrence, KS band The Get Up Kids and their 2004 record Guilt Show - its last with Vagrant Records. We reflect on keyboardist James Dewees leaving the group in September 2019 and Guilt Show being a perfect batch of chocolate chip cookies. We covered a ton of ground on the band and the impact this record had on Derek's own musical pursits. Enjoy! Check out Derek's music here: https://derekevry.bandcamp.com/