Steve LeVine is the editor of The Electric, a newsletter focused on batteries and electric vehicles, and is the author of The Powerhouse: America, China, and the Great Battery War, Putin's Labyrinth, and The Oil and the Glory. He's also a regular contributor to the New York Times and Washington Post and joins Gaby and Shaila on this episode to talk about the likelihood of reaching a reliable battery supply chain, and how much demand he thinks there will really be for stationary and electric vehicle batteries as we head toward into the 2030s.