Between family arguments, online outrage, and political hostility, many people feel like civil dialogue is slipping away. Marianne Viray believes we can bring it back.

In this episode, we speak with the Executive Director of Disagree Better, whose work blends decades of political experience with tools that help people communicate across deep differences without losing dignity.

Marianne shares the personal experiences that shaped her belief that disagreement isn’t dangerous; contempt is. Through the story of the Dignity Index, Marianne reveals how individuals, leaders, and entire communities can move from division to understanding using simple, human-centered practices.

If you’ve ever wondered how to talk to someone you disagree with—or how we heal a polarized nation—this conversation is for you. ...