In Episode 2 Michael talks with some former cast members of The Lion King. While it is one of the most successful musicals of all time and has a hugely diverse cast the story of the lion king is very much the opposite of liberation. Michael argues that its premise is built on accepting hierarchal norms and subjecting certain members of society. While the cast members counter with the socially positive impact that the show has had. The paradox of the podcast fully comes into play.