The first person featured in The Staff Designer woke up one day and completely left design. Yoko Sakao Ohama, former Staff Product Designer at Etsy, has now started a completely different career in accounting and financial services. Catt sits down with Yoko to talk about what burnout actually feels like from the inside, what it means to walk away from an identity you've held for decades, and why quitting can be an invitation rather than a failure. This one's for anyone who has quietly wondered if it might be time to go.

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ℹ️ In this episode

• How Yoko knew it was time to quit working in design
• What it feels like to grieve a professional identity you've held for over a decade
• How Yoko transitioned, and what her work looks like now
• The skills that Yoko took into her new ind ...