On this episode of Inspiring Interviews, Louisa Jewell sits down with John Jeff Hutter, author of Gutsy Grief, for an honest conversation about what loss asks of us, and what it can show us in return. A decade on from his father's death, John Jeff reflects on grief as something non-linear and "squiggly," better understood through a series of what he calls portals than through stages or timelines.

John Jeff and Louisa explore the difference between "everything happens for a reason" and what he describes as a gratitude "upgrade," the shared responsibility inside conflict, the messy "year of excuses" that can follow a loss, and the quiet relief of letting go of the idea that healing has a finish line. Along the way, there is practical wisdom for anyone trying to support a grieving friend, starting with why "don't say sorry" may serve  ...