Janey Martino built Smiling Mind, one of Australia's most impactful not-for-profits, led businesses, coached founders, and is now back in the CEO chair at KIC. But this conversation isn't about what she's built — it's about what broke, and what she found inside the cracks.

Janey steps into the arena with a willingness to go there, sharing openly the moments that reshaped how she leads and lives.

We go deep on the Japanese philosophy of Kintsugi, on learning to feel before you think, and on the tension every leader carries between coaching and operating.

This is a conversation for any leader who has ever tried to hold it all together and wondered whether letting go might actually be the work.