The legends are here.

Elaine Meryl Brown and Rhonda Joy McLean have spent decades doing the latter. These are not surface-level careers. These are rooms entered, decisions made, systems navigated, and influence built over time. They are pioneers in their respective fields, women who did not simply rise through the ranks but learned how to move within them with precision, strategy, and staying power.

In this conversation, Monica Wisdom sits with Elaine Meryl Brown and Rhonda Joy McLean, co-authors of The Next Little Black Book of Success, to talk about what it really takes to build a career that lasts.

Elaine Meryl Brown built her career at the highest levels of media, shaping stories and strategy inside HBO and beyond. Rhonda Joy McLean spent decades inside corporate law at Time Inc., advising global br ...