On this episode, we are very excited to welcome Jocelyn Stevenson, co-creator of Fraggle Rock! She's also the author of the book series, The Waterubas, a book series teaching children about environmental stewardship. Jocelyn explains her creative process, including how the elemental nature of these Waterubas mirrors the qualities of water, such as acceptance and persistence.

Matt also opens up to Jocelyn about his brother, as there's a character in The Waterubas with cerebral palsy. Matt & Jocelyn discuss representation of disability in literature. Matt also shares his experiences taking care of a non-verbal brother.

Matt & Jocelyn also reflect on the legacy of Fraggle Rock, and describe that the modern series, "Fraggle Rock: Back to the Rock", as an expansion of Jim Henson's vision, not merely a reboot.

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