Special MC: The Untold Story Behind ‘JOY’ Fame, Mark Ryder Regret & UK Garage History

In this exclusive, in-depth conversation, UK Garage legend Special MC finally sits down to tell the full untold story behind one of the biggest garage anthems of all time — “JOY.”

From his early life in Hackney, his football dreams at QPR, pirate radio days, and the moment he realised “JOY” had become a national anthem, to the money, fame, mistakes, setbacks and resurgence — nothing is left out.

This is the most complete and honest interview Special MC has ever done.

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Chapters:

0:00 Intro

1:44 Oi Oi out now! SHIZZIO x SPECIAL MC

2:08 Welcome Special MC

4:36 Born & Bred / Hackney

6:01 moving to Ilford / ADHD label

7:06 Im half Mexican

8:17 out a lot as a kid

10:03 strict parents / dad in prison

12:38 school / football was my dream

16:33 let go from QPR

17:55 music begins to enter my life / jungle

19:01 pirate radio / I copied Skibba!

19:58 garage music creeps in / MC practice

21:31 writing own lyrics / 1st lyric

22:03 vibes & melody over lyrics

23:32 I never wanted to be a music star

24:10 MC Preshus / name origin

26:06 taking MC seriously / football Vs Music

26:47 Flava FM radio host

28:40 1st release / meeting Mark Ryder

33:35 making ‘Joy’

39:43 realising ‘Joy’ is massive! / EZ

40:33 contract details of ‘Joy’

42:31 1st club play of ‘Joy’ by DJ EZ

45:49 luck / Joy is No 1 Garage anthem

48:22 Vinyl sales of ‘Joy’

50:16 PA of ‘Joy’ across the UK / money made

52:17 ilford host / Noting Hill Carnival

56:17 leaving football

57:17 money made & spent / dress good

58:57 parents on fame / handling fame

1:00:11 biggest shows / Russia

1:00:38 is ‘Joy’ one of the biggest Garage songs ever?

1:03:21 ‘Joy’ gets signed / details / issues / no money

1:07:16 clearing the sample / No Spotify

1:08:27 cult following / enigma / DJ AG

1:09:12 bittersweet fame could have been more

1:09:43 ‘Joy’ is still an anthem! / TIKTOK

1:10:13 money made from JOY

1:10:45 follow up from JOY / Issues with Mark Ryder

1:13:41 I partied too much

1:14:34 one hit wonder?

1:15:23 happy doing me / not an artist

1:16:05 JOY funded my lifestyle

1:16:22 garage decline / I got a regular job

1:19:32 I damaged my own reputation / too laid back

1:21:49 2nd wave of JOY / award win

1:23:58 period of zero shows / lived in Dubai

1:25:49 Covid was total rubbish

1:27:05 I lived in Romania

1:28:37 resurgence of JOY / cult classic

1:30:05 JOY is a UK anthem!

1:30:58 re releasing JOY

1:32:12 JOY music video?

1:32:51 25 yr anniversary of JOY / remix

1:33:43 still busy / Shizzio song collab

1:35:15 iconic O2 performance

1:37:39 backstage at the O2 / DB / Dane Bowers

1:39:06 future music plans / Mc Vapour

1:40:03 will garage hit mainstream success again? / Craig David

1:41:17 AI Q’s / Wiley beef with Gods Gift

1:42:25 garage kings

1:43:10 was your legacy slept on? / Joy is undeniable

1:45:23 who ruined garage? / Jungle Vs Garage

1:46:08 garage revival / new garage

1:47:37 new MC’s / Top 5

1:49:00 relevance / Moscow

1:49:51 quitting / dream line up

1:50:43 social media / no internet

1:53:00 garage violence

1:53:45 Garage Mc’s VS Grime Mc’s / hosting

1:54:56 advice / garage credit / old raves

1:56:26 underrated talent / msg song

1:57:50 promoters not paying MC’s

1:59:14 Uk garage national anthem

1:59:42 money

2:00:01 quick fire Q’s

2:05:43 Uk New world order is coming

2:08:08 flowers / thank you MC Special