"You're not running a sprint, you're running a marathon."

Jonathan Reynolds gets it — because he's spent years watching leaders burn themselves out trying to have all the answers.

Jonathan is the founder and CEO of Mindful Work Inc., a San Francisco leadership development company built around one idea: the busiest, most "productive" version of you is usually the least effective one. He's also a licensed (though not currently practicing) therapist, which shows in how he talks about leadership — less org chart, more relationships. In this episode, Karl and Jonathan get into why the best leaders act more like orchestra conductors than star players, and why the "self-made" founder story is quietly wrecking companies from the inside.

What you'll walk away with:

• Why starting absurdly small (one mi ...