In this inaugural episode writer and communications professional Chris Garbutt, and therapist and author Degan Davis delve into their own experiences of learning masculinity. The opening poem is an excerpt from Degan's book, which has the same name as the podcast.

Drawing from personal experiences, stories and literary works, Chris and Degan explore boyhood and how men become the way they are. Their vivid memories illustrate themes of

• freedom
• fear
• cruelty
• learning to be men
• societal expectations
• crying
• music
• and a discussion of men vs bears!

You can buy Degan's book at Brick Books. Also, we desperately need a computer that does grind every ...