It's time to take on marriage systems, the guilt of protected time, & frictionless mornings with Paige Connell.

Listen in as Paige Connell — the writer and creator behind @sheisapaigeturner — joins Mel and Michelle for an hour that starts as girl talk and turns into a full playbook for building a marriage that runs on shared ownership instead of default roles. Paige is a mom of four (!!) who reached a breaking point after her youngest was born, rebuilt her marriage's mental load from the ground up, and has spent the years since turning what she learned into language thousands of women send to each other.

She's sharing her takes on:

• Why running your home "like a business" and having a soft, loving marriage aren't in conflict — they actually make room for each other
• The one system-agnostic habit she credits most:  ...