Before the first Fire, there’s the kindling.

In this brief introduction to The Fire Between, we’re starting with the conversation behind the conversations: what this podcast is, why we created it, and what we hope might happen when we invite you in.

At the heart of The Fire Between is a simple belief: the best conversations rarely begin with answers. They begin when we’re curious enough to ask the question and brave enough to stay for whatever comes next.

We’re not here as experts or professionals with a blueprint for how anyone else should live, and we’re not here to give advice. We’re simply two people with different perspectives, lived experiences, and ways of seeing the world, offering up ideas through conversation.

Because we believe curiosity can take us somewhere certainty never will. That disagree ...