Episode notes
This episode will include a very personal and intimate interview with Rutger Wilhelm. Rutger Wilhelm is chair-elect of the International Cluttering Association and also chairs the consumer committee within that same organization. Next to that he is board member of the Dutch stuttering association. Also, he has served the board of the International Stuttering Association (ISA). In 2021 Rutger published a book about his experiences with cluttering: Too fast for words. In this episode we discuss his personal experiences with Cluttering, Joe Bidden, and Rutger's value of acceptance.