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Unveiling the Legends: Dolls of the 60s & 70s

Unveiling the Legends: Dolls of the 60s & 70s

by Emma Rosa Katharina & Abigail Devoe

History Music History

Season 3

Dusty Springfield: The many lives of Mary O'Brian

The original “Reputation era” belonged to this week’s Doll, Dusty Springfield! Born in post-war Britain to a Scottish father and Irish mother, Mary O’Brien was never going to be a good little Catholic schoolgirl; neither would she be content in a family band. Dusty Springfield was born to be in the spotlight. No government or journalist was going to box her into a corner! And no man - or woman - could tie her down. The worlds she created in songs like “Spooky,” “The Look of Love,” “Just A Little Lovin’,” and of course “Son of a Preacher Man” were tender and sultry, like her “microphone voice.” She rarely belted, but did she really have to? Bask in Dusty’s greatness, be charmed by her wit, revel in her resurrection, and enjoy and a career-spanning retrospective of this beloved “bicon.” “Dusty Springfield: The Many Lives of Mary O’Brien” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🎙️ Sources used: Lucy O’Brien, “Dusty: The Classic Biography, Revised and Updated” (2024) Lucy O’Brien, “You started something…” The Guardian, 2/20/1999 “Dusty Plays South Africa” Witness History: Archive podcast via Spotify, 12/24/2012 Paul Du Noyer, “Dusty Springfield Interview” originally published in Mojo, 7/1995 “DUSTY SPRINGFIELD” The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (2026) “Dusty Springfield obituary” The Guardian, 3/3/1999 Songs used in this episode: Dusty Springfield - “Son of a Preacher Man” (1969) Bessie Smith - “St. Louis Blues” (1925) The Lana Sisters - “My Mother’s Eyes” (1960) The Springfields - “Dear John” (1961) The Springfields - “Island of Dreams” (1963) The Exciters - “Tell Him” (1963) Dusty Springfield - “Stay Awhile” (1964) Dusty Springfield - “The Look of Love” (1967) Dusty Springfield - “Sometimes Like Butterflies” (1985) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this week’s episode!

Art, Beauty, and Love: An Interview with Ginger Gilmour

Artist and author Ginger Gilmour joins this special episode of the Dolls Podcast for a conversation about love and motherhood, the artistic process, having faith in yourself, and of course Pink Floyd. She talks about bands she defied her mother to listen to, things she missed when she moved to England, the Pink Floyd album she’s never heard, and which unlikely guests she brought to Floyd shows. She even showed Emma and Abby some works in progress for her upcoming art exhibition in Las Vegas! Ginger was so generous with her memories and willing to share her knowledge. It really was a thrill to hear so much about her artistic process. Thank you Ginger! 🌈 Ginger’s website: https://www.gingergilmour.co.uk Buy “Behind The Wall: A Story of Love, Loss, and Wonder” here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1912587874?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback Ginger at the San Fransisco Art Exchange: https://sfae.com/Artists/Ginger-Gilmour?srsltid=AfmBOopChCZl9M21A_BD7t3NsFprraUWA_zWx6ui7hx14z4ZG2wsLehc Ginger’s 2-week exhibition of Pink Floyd-related works opens to the public at the Animazing Gallery in Las Vegas in October 2026 Upcoming events at Animazing: https://www.animazing.com/events-3 Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

Ginger Gilmour: Echoes in Beauty

“Ever since I was little, there has been a flavor, a grace of energy, which has always guided me…Fortunately, despite many challenges along the way, I feel it has mainly been full of grace, for which I am eternally grateful.” - Ginger Gilmour Would you run off with the love of your life after only knowing them for 3 days? It sounds like the plot of a Disney movie, but it was Ginger Gilmour’s real life when she found love at first sight with Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour. (And how could she not? It’s David Gilmour!) Ginger married her “Prince Charming” and lived a rock-and-roll fairytale, watching as Pink Floyd went from rags to riches. They welcomed four children together and traveled the world together. When the dream was over, Ginger rebuilt her life; becoming a successful multi-media artist. Ginger’s life is a tale of love, spirituality, healing, and finding purpose in life: bringing love and beauty into the lives of others. Hear the story of Pink Floyd from one of the few women who were around, told by two women who love Floyd (and have edited as many of Dave’s guitar solos as they possibly could into this episode.) “Ginger Gilmour: Echoes in Beauty” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌈 Sources used: Ginger Gilmour, “Memoirs of the Bright Side of the Moon” (2013) Ginger Gilmour, “Behind The Wall: A Tale of Love, Loss, and Wonder” (2023) Nick Mason, “Inside Out: A Personal History of Pink Floyd” (2017 ed.) Glenn Povey, “Echoes: The Complete History of Pink Floyd” (2010) Mark Blake, “Comfortably Numb: The Inside Story of Pink Floyd” (2008) Songs used in this episode: Pink Floyd, “Speak To Me”/“Breathe (In The Air)” (1973) The Beatles, “I’m Happy Just To Dance With You” (1964) Pink Floyd, “Set The Controls For the Heart of the Sun” (From “Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii,” 1971) Pink Floyd, “Fat Old Sun” (1970) Pink Floyd, “A Pillow of Winds” (1971) David Gilmour, “Do You Want To Marry Me?” (1967) Pink Floyd, “The Gold It’s In The…” (1972) Pink Floyd, “Childhood’s End” (1972) Pink Floyd, “Money” (1973) Pink Floyd, “Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts 6-9)” (1975) Pink Floyd, “Pigs (Three Different Ones)” (1977) Pink Floyd, “In The Flesh” (1981) Pink Floyd, “Comfortably Numb” (1981) David Gilmour, “Out Of The Blue” (1984) Pink Floyd, “Eclipse” (1973) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

Alice Coltrane: Highest Song of Bliss

“Everything I do is an offering to God - that’s the truth.” - Alice Coltrane Part of the Dolls Pod mission statement is to spotlight a remarkable woman each episode. That description certainly applies to this week’s subject. First she was Alice McLeod, a single Black woman working on the jazz circuit in New York, Paris, and her home city of Detroit. Then she was Alice Coltrane, John’s muse and partner in free jazz exploration. After John passed at the height of the Summer of Love, Alice was called first to India, then California on a spiritual journey; establishing her own ashram as Swamini Turiyasangitananda. Pursuing just one of these life paths would be remarkable. In just 69 years, Alice somehow pursued all three; transcending all limitations placed on her, internal and external. (Episode starts at 5:42) Sources: Andy Beta, “Cosmic Music: The Life, Art, and Transcendence of Alice Coltrane” (2026) Alice Coltrane, “Monument Eternal” (2025 ed.) Franya J. Berkman, “Monument Eternal: The Music of Alice Coltrane” (2010) Chris Devito, “Coltrane on Coltrane: The John Coltrane Interviews” (2010) https://archive.org/details/coltraneoncoltra0000unse Lewis Porter, “John Coltrane: His Life and Music” (1998) https://archive.org/details/johncoltranehisl0000port “Alice Coltrane” Black Journal, 1970, via The John & Alice Coltrane Home https://thecoltranehome.org/alice-coltrane-documentary/ NPR: Jazz Night in America, “Saint Coltrane: The Church Built on ‘A Love Supreme’” (dir. Lauren Onkey, 2/2/2021) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAgJ-igwuSQ “Eternity's Pillar - Hosted by Alice Coltrane Swamini Turiyasangitananda” via dublab on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3MkhsePVJE Andy Beta, “Transfiguration and Transcendence: The Music of Alice Coltrane” Pitchfork, 1/12/2017 https://pitchfork.com/features/from-the-pitchfork-review/10009-transfiguration-and-transcendence-the-music-of-alice-coltrane Songs used in this episode: Dizzy Gillespie - “A Night in Tunisia” (1954) Bud Powell - “Groovin’ High” (1961) The Premiers - “When You Are In Love” (1957) The Terry Gibbs Quartet featuring Alice McLeod - “Sol Right With Me” (1963) John Coltrane - “Giant Steps” (1960) John Coltrane - “Africa” (1961) Irving Berlin - “Always” (sang by Lewis James) [1925] John Coltrane - “Your Lady” (Live at Birdland) [1964] John Coltrane - “A Love Supreme, Part I: Acknowledgement” (1965) John Coltrane - “My Favorite Things” (Live from the Village Vanguard) [1966] Alice Coltrane - “Ohnedaruth” (1968) Alice Coltrane - “Journey in Satchidananda” (1971) John Coltrane - “Om” (1968) Alice Coltrane - “Ptah, the El-Daoud” (1970) Alice Coltrane - “Shiva Loka” (1971) John Coltrane - “A Love Supreme, Part III: Pursuance” (1965) Alice Coltrane - “Jagadishwar” (1982) Flying Lotus - “Auntie’s Harp” (2008) Alice Coltrane - “A Love Supreme” (Live at Jazz Jamboree with Roy Hanes, Reggie Workman, and Ravi Coltrane) [1987] Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and videos from this episode!

Linda Perhacs: Seeing Music in Color

Two things we learned from this week’s episode: 1. Chat with people at the dentist’s office 2. Just make that phone call! This week’s episode is all about the spirit of collaboration. Emma introduces one of her and Abby’s favorite obscure 1970s folk artists, Linda Perhacs. Linda made music like no one else, tapping into her synesthesia to write intricate harmonies and lush tunes. But after recording just one album, the legendary “Parallelograms,” she returned to her straight job as a dental hygienist. Thanks to some dedicated fans, a cold call, and the Tower Records closing sale, Linda found the people who helped her return to music over 30 years later. It just so happens that Abby knows one of these people! An on-the-spot interview with @fernandoperdomoguitar, producer of Linda’s 2nd and 3rd albums, fills out the second half of this week’s episode. Thank you Fernando for joining us this week! “Linda Perhacs: Seeing Music in Color” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🟦 (Episode starts at 5:50) Sources: “Artists: Linda Perhacs” Athsmatic Kitty https://asthmatickitty.com/artists/linda-perhacs/ “Singer Linda Perhacs Is Making Up For Lost Time” Time Magazine, 2/28/2014 https://time.com/archive/7114291/linda-perhacs-interview/ Linda Perhacs, “The Unlikely Music Career of Linda Perhacs” Red Bull Music Academy, 2/25/2015 https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2015/02/linda-perhacs-feature Kim Cooper and Ron Garmon, “LINDA PERHACS’ FIRST MAJOR INTERVIEW” Scram no. 19, 2004 https://www.scrammagazine.com/linda-perhacs-first-major-interview-january-2004/ John Paul, “The Healing Power of Music: A Conversation with Linda Perhacs” PopMatters, 9/26/2017 https://www.popmatters.com/the-healing-power-of-music-a-conversation-with-linda-perhacs-2495378104.html And Abby’s personal interview with Fernando Perdomo, conducted 5/132025 Songs used in this episode: Linda Perhacs - “Parallelograms” (1970) Theme from “Rebel Without A Cause” (1955) Linda Perhacs - “Hey, Who Really Cares” (1970) Linda Perhacs - “Chimacum Rain” (1970) Linda Perhacs - “Parallelograms” (1970) Daft Punk - “If You Were My Man” (from the “Electrama” soundtrack, 2007 Linda Perhacs - “The Soul of All Natural Things” (2012) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this week’s episode!

Marianne Ihlen: Bird on the Wire

You’ve almost certainly heard the story of Pattie Boyd, the beautiful blonde who had two great talents pining for her affection. But have you heard of Marianne Ihlen? From a quaint village in Norway, Marianne fell in love with Axel Jensen, the “Norwegian Jack Kerouac.” Together they journeyed to the Greek island of Hydra, where they were among the first of the island’s ex-pat community. Just as their marriage fell apart, who should show up on Hydra but one of the greatest songwriters of all-time: Leonard Cohen. He will write several of his greatest songs about her, including “So Long, Marianne” and “Hey, That’s No Way to Say Goodbye.” Her humility and kindness influenced Leonard across geographic borders, 3 albums, and beyond. This week on the Dolls Pod, we’re bringing Marianne’s story out from the shadows that her famous lovers’ legends have cast. Plus, Emma and Abby chat about the wonders of Peppa Pig Land, weird allergies, and post-breakup haircuts. Some things really are canon events! “Marianne Ihlen: Bird on the Wire” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌊 (Episode starts at 5:17) Sources: Kari Hesthamar, “So Long, Marianne: A Love Story” Translated by Helle V. Goldman (2017) Sylvie Simmons, “I’m Your Man: The Life of Leonard Cohen” (2018 ed.) Nick Broomfield, dir. “Marianne & Leonard: Words of Love” (2019) “Obituary: Marianne Ihlen, Leonard Cohen’s muse” The Scotsman, 8/13/2016 Songs in this episode: Leonard Cohen - “Hey, That’s No Way To Say Goodbye” (1967) Judy Collins - “Suzanne” (1966) Leonard Cohen - “Chelsea Hotel No. 2” (1974) Leonard Cohen - “So Long, Marianne” (1967) Leonard Cohen - “Winter Lady” (1967) Leonard Cohen - “The Stranger Song” (1967) Leonard Cohen - “Sisters of Mercy” (1967) Leonard Cohen - “Bird on the Wire” (1969) Leonard Cohen - “Treaty” (2016) With excerpts from “Boy On A Dolphin” (dir. Jean Negulesco, 1957) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

Samantha Juste: Top of the Pops Disc Maid

We’ve had episodes about Beatles wives and Stones wives, now it’s time to spotlight a Monkee wife! This week’s Doll started as the Top of the Pops disc girl, working as a dolly bird model and rocking with the mad mod London world. Then she met Monkee Micky Dolenz on the set of her TV show, traded her union jacks for Laurel Canyon digs, and rolled with the Hollywood Vampires. It’s a sweet little episode about sweet Samantha Juste! Plus, Emma delivers the best cold open in Dolls Pod history so far: how her son turned green. (Really!!) “Samantha Juste: Top of the Pops Disc Maid” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌼 (Episode starts at 5:10) Sources: Micky Dolenz, “I’m A Believer: My Life of Monkees, Music, and Madness” (1993) Audrey Hulse, “The Truth About Samantha Juste” FaVe Vol. 1 issue 8, April 1968, as reprinted by The Sunshine Factory “Interview With Samantha Dolenz” Monkees Monthly no. 31, 8/1969, as reprinted by Monocled Alchemist: Psychedelic Unknowns “Obituaries: Samantha Juste: 'Disc maid' on 'Top of the Pops' who wrote for teenage girls and launched a range of fashion and jewellery” The Independent UK, 2/19/2014 Jan Tuckwood, “Goodbye to ‘the girl in yellow dress’: Iconic 1960s model's death a reminder of the risks of stroke in women” The Palm Beach Post, 2/6/2014 The Nilsson documentary Abby mentions is “Who Is Harry Nilsson (And Why Is Everybody Talking About Him?)” dir. John Scheinfield, 2006 Songs used in this episode: “Top Of The Pops” theme Samantha Juste - “No One Needs My Love Today” (1966) “The Monkees” theme The Monkees - “I’m A Believer” (1966) The Monkees - “Randy Scouse Git” (1967) The Monkees - “Cuddly Toy” (1967) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

Backstage Pass: An Interview with Genny Schorr

“I don’t think we thought about anything. We just did it!” - Genny Schorr, about her groundbreaking LA punk band Backstage Pass Back in February, we had an awesome chat with musician, stylist, and “All Roads Lead To Punk” author Genny Schorr (AKA Genny Body.) With her band Backstage Pass, she was one of the original LA punks; blending punk with glam rock as they terrorized the Sunset Strip and challenging gender roles. Then she was stylist to the stars at the legendary Strait Jacket boutique, dressing the likes of the Bangles, the Go-Gos, Linda Ronstadt, and so so many more. (Check out Kathy Valentine wearing custom Strait Jacket on slide 6!) Genny is a lifelong music and fashion lover and devoted mom. Through it all, she’s embodied the punk spirit: doing it yourself and not giving a hoot what anyone else thinks! She’s not just “Genny-body,” she’s a trailblazer with a story to tell. Plus: Emma recounts the mystery of the multiplying shelf screws? “Backstage Pass: An Interview with Genny Schorr” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 🎸 (Episode starts at 3:54) Sources used for this episode: Genny Schorr, “All Roads Lead To Punk” (2025) “All Roads Lead To Punk: Genny Schorr INTERVIEW” Ugly Things Podcast, 1/20/2026 Jen B. Larson, “Genny Schorr Sees Glitter on the Sidewalk and Stars in Her Eyes in Her New Book, All Roads Lead to Punk” Punk Globe Magazine, 10/2025 “Dr. Martens Presents: Women in Punk, Los Angeles” (dir. Alison Roberto, 10/28/2021) Songs in this episode: Chubby Checker - “The Twist” (1958) Elvis Presley - “What’d I Say” (1964) The Beatles - “Girl” (1965) The Leaves - “Hey Joe” (1965) *Dr. Feelgood - “Riot in Cell Block Number Nine” (1975) The Ramones - “Blitzkrieg Bop” (1975) The Damned - “Neat Neat Neat” (1977) Backstage Pass - “Legend” (1977) Genny Schorr and The Boys - “Luckiest Boy In The World” (1982) Visit Genny’s website here: http://www.gennyschorr.com Genny’s Instagram: @backstagepass1977 Buy “All Roads Lead To Punk” with Backstage Pass’s “Legend” single from HoZac Books: https://hozacrecords.com/product/pre-order-all-roads-lead-to-punk-book-7-record-set-by-genny-schorr/ Eden’s non-profit: http://www.juniorhighlosangeles.com Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!

Joan Baez: The Voice of Protest

Our 2-part Baez sisters miniseries concludes with an episode about the queen of folk music, Joan Baez. From her first appearance at the 1959 Newport Folk Festival, it was clear something was special about Joan. She had a pure voice that softened the blows of her bold activism. She refused to let her income taxes go towards funding the Vietnam War, walked alongside civil rights protesters, walked black children to their first days of integrating schools in the south, and was repeatedly censored by the media for her prisoners’ rights and anti-war beliefs. Of course her early championing of Bob Dylan changed the course of rock-and-roll history, but Joan’s 6 decades of fighting for her chosen causes and leading with her heart have changed our world. Plus: both hosts discuss their favorite David Lynch films, their “only one Dolls Pod host sick at a time” “rule,” and Abby’s terrible Dylan impression returns! “Joan Baez: The Voice of Protest” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 🕊️ (Episode starts at 5:09) Sources: Joan Baez, “And A Voice To Sing With” (1986) David Hajdu, “Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina” (2001) Bob Spitz, “Dylan: A Biography” (1989) David Browne, “Joan Baez’s Fighting Side: The Life and Times of a Secret Badass” Rolling Stone, 4/5/2017 Andy Greene, “Flashback: Joan Baez Pleads with Bob Dylan via Song” Rolling Stone, 3/10/2016 Philipp Oehmke, “Ich habe mich mein ganzes Leben lang in Beziehungen versucht, keine ist je geglückt" Spiegel, 2/28/2018 Songs used in this episode: Pete Seeger - “Where Have All The Flowers Gone?” (1955) Joan Baez - “500 Miles (Away From Home)” (1965) Joan Baez - “The Banks of Ohio” (1959) Bob Gibson and Joan Baez - “We Are Crossing at Jordan River” (Live at the 1959 Newport Folk Festival) Joan Baez - “Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright” (1963) Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “With God On Our Side” (Live at the 1963 Newport Folk Festival) Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “It Ain’t Me Babe” (Live at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival) Joan Baez - “Joe Hill” (Live at the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair, 8/16/1969) Joan Baez - “Diamonds and Rust” (1975) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this week’s episode!

Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name

“For rising of the women Means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, Ten that toil where one reposes, But the sharing of life's glories, Bread and roses, bread and roses.” Mimi Fariña spent most of her life living in someone else’s shadow. First, she was the kid sister of folk music’s Mother Mary, Joan Baez. Then, she was one half of a duo with her husband Richard Fariña; a mysterious and handsome writer cut down in his prime. Mimi refused to let these larger-than-life figures dictate her story. She found her own voice and her life’s work, establishing her nonprofit Bread & Roses to bring music to isolated communities in the San Fransisco Bay Area, and found her purpose in tragedy. Plus, the Dolls Pod gives…hot takes on classic literature and film? Emma and Abby talk about the difficulties of adapting “Wuthering Heights,” and Emma loves a slow film but declares “Gone With The Wind” is an hour too long. Do you agree? “Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌹 (Episode begins at 5:40) Bread & Roses official website: https://www.breadandroses.org (https://www.breadandroses.org/) Sources used for this episode: David Hajdu, “Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina” (2001) Joan Baez, “And A Voice To Sing With” (1986) Elijah Wald, “Dylan Goes Electric! Newport, Seeger, Dylan, and the Night That Split the Sixties” (2015) Suze Rotolo, “A Freewheelin’ Time: A Memoir of Greenwich Village in the Sixties” (2008) Patrick Morrow, “Mimi Fariña Interview” Popular Music and Society vol. 2, no. 1, 1972. Reprinted by Mimiandrichardfarina.com “Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation” (dir. Laura Archibald, 2012) “Joan Baez: I Am A Noise” (dir. Miri Navasky, Maeve O’Boyle, and Karen O’Connor, 2023) “The Ballad of Mimi Fariña: A biography of the great guitarist, singer, songwriter & humanitarian” Mimiandrichardfarina.com Songs used in this episode: Kate Bush - “Wuthering Heights” (1978) Pete Seeger - “Where Have All The Flowers Gone?” (1955) Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Catch The Wind” (1967) Joan Baez - “Silver Dagger” (1960) Richard Fariña and Eric Von Schmidt - “You Can Always Tell” (1963) Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “Mama, You’ve Been On My Mind” (Live at the Philharmonic Hall) [1964] Joan Baez - “Birmingham Sunday” (1964) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Pack Up Your Sorrows” (1965) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “House Un-American Blues Activity Dream” (Live at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Miles” (1966) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Bold Marauder” (Live on Pete Seeger’s Rainbow Quest) [1966] The Doors - “Been Down So Long” (1971) Mimi Fariña - “Flowers In The Afternoon” (1967) Blood, Sweat & Tears - “Meagan’s Gypsy Eyes” (1968) Joan Baez - “Sweet Sir Galahad” (1969) Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Morning, Morning” (Live at the 1968 Newport Folk Festival) Mimi Fariña and Tom Jans - “In the Quiet Morning” (1972) Judy Collins - “Bread and Roses” (1976) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

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