What does it really mean to raise a “good” human?

Not a high achiever. Not a perfectly behaved child. But someone who is kind, grounded, resilient… and emotionally aware.

In this episode of The Story of Us, Jeff sits down with educator, consultant, and author Rosemary Olender—who has spent decades working inside classrooms, schools, and family systems—to explore what actually shapes a child.

This conversation goes beyond parenting advice.

It’s about the everyday moments… the conversations we have… the behaviors we model…

and how those small things quietly shape who our children become.

Drawing from over 20 years of experience as a teacher, principal, and director of special education, Rosemary shares what she’s seen change in today’s families—and what still matters most.

Together, they explore: