Dr. Janja Lalich and I talk about cults (we are both cult survivors and cult researchers) and we meander through these topics:

Why people join:

• The main thing that attracts people to cults is their own idealism.
• Most people are recruited into cults by friends and family.
• Making enemies and monsters on the outside is one way that cults keep people trapped.
• Isolation is a key way that cults and abusers control people; if you're a concerned person on the outside, keep the lines of communication open if you can.
• Don't argue about the cult or the leader; be a friend and include them in pleasant times to remind them of the possibilities on the outside of the cult or abusive relationship.

When people leave:

• Become their safe haven; don't chal ...