We all see the obvious problems with surrogacy and IVF, but few want to pick that fight. Katy Faust believes it is the battle of our times and her movement, Them Before Us, gives people the framework to fight back. 

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
07:00 Doxxing Story 
15:00 Children's Rights v Adult Rights
21:00 Who Bears The Burden?
23:30 What Arguments Are Most Effective?
28:45 Gen Z
36:08 Obergefell Needs To Go
44:18 Is IVF Pro-Life?


Website: https://thembeforeus.com/
The video: “Colette” : https://youtu.be/Gl78C7b6G1o?si=b16uC4dxAjQOSTRJ 
Katy’s Substack: https://thembeforeus.substack.com/ 
Katy in First Things: “The End of Natural Parenthood” https://firstthings.com/the-end-of-natural-parenthood/ 

EMAIL US: loopcast@catholicvote.org

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