This double length, special episode features a conversation between Deborah Brown and Dr Jacqueline Young about Jacqueline’s recent research study exploring the intersections between creative thinking and disadvantage in reception age children (aged 4 and 5 years). Jacqueline talks about how disadvantage shapes opportunities for imagination, and why nurturing creativity is a powerful act of equity in early education.

Join the podcast for a thoughtful, accessible conversation about curiosity, context, and the transformative potential of creative pedagogy.

Episode Nine References:

DfE (2025) ‘Early years foundation stage statutory framework for group and school-based providers: setting the standards for learning, development and care for children from birth to five’. Department for Education. Available at: