Summary:  

In this podcast, Jeff Carolin, a lawyer, talks about his journey of moving away from the adversarial legal system towards transformative justice and conflict transformation. He shares his experiences of feeling unfulfilled and disconnected from his work in the legal system, and how he found a sense of purpose in working with restorative justice networks and connecting with organizations like Bloom. Overall, Jeff's story highlights the importance of empathy, emotional vulnerability, and restoration in conflict resolution.  

A little note, Jeff acknowledges that he got confused at one point in the podcast when he tried to attribute an MLK quote to Lilla Watson (whose name he had forgotten). Both of these inspirational leaders share(d) a vision for our collective liberation." 

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