The 25-minute adjustment is here — so instead of talking about it for one more episode, we ran one. Ryan Wilkins joins Kevin Jones and Julie Hillyard to teach an unscripted, real-time 25-minute lesson on a title of the Savior most of us think we already understand: the Rock. Ryan walks through four different rocks in scripture. No lecture, no right answers, no exhausting every point. Just scripture, questions, and three people wrestling out loud.

Then we stop and take the whole thing apart. What made it work? Ryan opened with a problem, not a principle — "what keeps you up at night?" — and brought it back at the end so every insight landed on something real. He picked four things instead of covering everything, said "there's more we could say about that" and kept moving, made it obvious there was no right answer, and did far less talking th ...