What does it mean that Ammon was "wise, yet harmless" — and how was King Lamoni "caught with guile"? In this episode, Kevin and Julie dig into Alma 17 and 18 and a detail most of us read straight past for years. After days of wrestling, praying, and rewriting his own answers, Kevin shares a possible reading that turns a familiar conversion story into a vivid picture of pride, power, feigned humility, and a teacher wise enough to see it all — and gracious enough not to use it.

But the real payoff is for teachers and parents. Ammon let the king sit in silence for an hour before saying a word. He asked simple questions before teaching big truths. He made space for the wrestle instead of rushing to rescue. Kevin and Julie talk through "simplicity on the other side of complexity," why giving the Spirit room often matters more than having the per ...