Dustin and Ghazali talk with Shuayb Abdi, an educator-turned-founder working with international schools across Southeast Asia and the Middle East, to discuss the growing gap between AI policy and what’s actually happening in classrooms—especially in contexts where class sizes are large, resources are limited, and traditional assessment models are strained. Together, they explore why many schools stay stuck in fear-based, reactive approaches (like bans and “catching cheating”), and what it looks like to move toward practical implementation through teacher training, thoughtful guardrails, data privacy, and AI tools that actually support learning and reclaim teacher time.

Our guiding question is, ‘How do we move from AI policy to classroom practice in ways that truly support teachers and improve student learning—without sacrificing safety, tru ...