Ahead of her return to the Edinburgh Festival Fringe, comedian, author and self-described “Scotland’s most anxious woman” Eleanor Morton joins the first episode of Spiralling to tackle a big question: how do we keep making art when the world seems increasingly anti-art? We discuss childhood anxiety, AI (a lot!), comedy funding, universal basic income, the Scottish comedy scene and the Fringe. Plus, a mystery caller joins us live on air to share an unusual gripe about his colleague.

Catch Eleanor at the Fringe this August with her new show, 'The Mermaid': https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/eleanor-morton-the-mermaid

Zara will be doing one night only at the Fringe on 12 August, tickets here:  ...