This is a guest conversation episode of Ship It Weekly, separate from the weekly news recaps.

In this Ship It: Conversations episode, I talk with David Chute, founder and CEO of Roadie, about internal developer portals, Backstage, automation, and how IDPs may evolve as AI agents become more common in engineering workflows.

We talk about the difference between a platform and a portal, the three common problems IDPs usually try to solve, why discoverability tends to be the first pain teams feel, and why a lot of orgs should start with automation before trying to perfect a service catalog. We also get into self-hosted Backstage vs managed options, and how teams should think about adoption, data models, and time to value.

The bigger theme is the one I found most interesting: IDPs may be shifting away from dashboard- ...