Benn Jordan is a musician, filmmaker, and security researcher who has uncovered serious vulnerabilities in the surveillance systems operating around us. We get into Flock cameras, the possibility of a “digital 9/11,” AI data centers, robot dogs, and the staggering amount of information our homes and cars collect about us. We also talk about the Fourth Amendment, how these systems can be abused, and what ordinary people can actually do about it. Some of it is fascinating. A lot of it is deeply concerning.

Im excited to announce the title of my next book Surveillance! I would love to hear your ideas for the book cover: https://forms.gle/3wx1vajGcibugevx7

This conversation took place on 08/13/26

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