So glad to finally publish this episode with Sonny. We had a few technical issues the first time we recorded but we went in for round 2, talking all about his amazing journey to publishing the industry guidance alongside a team of other experts. We discuss why there was a need for a new piece of guidance, the anxieties and challenges around fire alarms and the distress they can cause, and the suitability of alarm systems for the buildings in which they are fitted. So excited to see what the future holds for Sonny, and so grateful to him for joining us on the pod. Enjoy.