Making secure technology is really hard. The security community hosts some unusual-sounding and counterintuitive events to help make the world’s technology safer and more secure. How does practicing to be a hacker help? Why would you attack something you’re trying to defend? When is paying hackers to find vulnerabilities in your software a good idea? In this episode, Josh Lospinoso, Scott Shreve, and Brian McCord discuss what CTFs, penetration tests, and bug bounties are and why they’re great tools for improving cybersecurity.