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Places She Shapes

Places She Shapes

by Zoe Smeeth

Careers Self-Improvement

Season 3

Lottie Outen: The Wrong Side of the Table

Season 3 | Episode 9 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Lottie Outen never planned a career in real estate. As a child she wanted to be a vet or a doctor. As a student she fell for languages, chased a year abroad, and ended up in a flat in the middle of Madrid learning corporate banking in Spanish. Ask her how she got from there to Managing Director at Kennedy Wilson, overseeing seven billion euros of assets, and the honest answer is that almost none of it went to plan. This week Lottie joins Zoe to trace a path built on instinct and a stubborn refusal to stand still. She is open about the disappointment that redirected her whole life, the long hours in investment banking, and the moment in a Berkeley Square boardroom when she looked around and thought, I am on the wrong side of the table. What came next took nine months, a lot of Saturdays teaching herself, and one of the least convincing resignations her boss says he has ever received. And then, while she was riding an elephant in Sri Lanka on garden leave, her phone rang. If you have ever felt the pull towards something before you could explain why, this one will land. Listen to the full episode to hear how Lottie learned that things happen for a reason, and that drive really does come from within. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes

Kara Carter: The Art of Committing

Season 3 | Episode 8 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Some people map out exactly where they will end up. Kara Carter, owner and director of Spacelab, is not one of them. She was the kid who loved to draw, the teenager juggling three jobs, the graduate who had no idea how you actually turn a talent for art into a living. What she did have was a quiet, stubborn work ethic and a knack for saying yes before she felt ready. This week Kara joins Zoe to trace a career that started with a summer placement and somehow, 21 years later, ended with her buying the company. There was no grand plan. There was a chance meeting at university, a competition win, and a founder who saw something in her she could not yet see in herself. But the road to ownership was anything but smooth. Kara is honest about the years of waiting, the conversations that went quiet, and the moment a single phone call changed everything, right before she left for holiday. What followed tested her in ways she never expected. to the full episode to hear how Kara learned to trust the process, and herself. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes

Lisa Ames-Hall: Project Manager to the Palaces

New Tracks | Episode 7 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Lisa Ames-Hall is a project manager at Historic Royal Palaces, the independent charity that looks after the Tower of London, Kensington Palace, Hampton Court and more. She is also an architect by training, a farm kid by upbringing, and someone who has quietly pivoted her career twice and landed somewhere that genuinely feels like a fit. Her route here was not obvious. She failed vet school spectacularly, opened a UCAS list from the top, and stumbled into architecture somewhere between astrophysics and aeronautics. Then, years later, she saw a job advert for a project manager at Historic Royal Palaces, told herself she wasn't qualified, applied anyway, and got it. What makes Lisa's episode so warm is how honest she is about what she was looking for and how long it took to find it. She talks about the difference between pushing at a door that will open and pushing at one that never will. About leading with empathy in an organisation where some of her colleagues have worked for 40 years. About what success actually looks like when you stop measuring it the way you were taught to. She also has some thoughts on keeping your weird. They are worth hearing. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes This series is proudly supported by JAC Project Management.

Emma Foster: From Lego to London's Biggest Developments

Season 3 | Episode 6 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Emma Foster knew she wanted to be involved in buildings from the moment a careers advisor wrote the word "architect" on a piece of paper. She went to Liverpool, realised within days that architecture wasn't quite right, and spent the rest of her degree quietly working out what was. Emma is now Principal at BGO, overseeing the design and construction of major development projects across Central London, including a half a million square foot office development at 105 Victoria Street. She got there via Mace, Goldman Sachs, Tishman Speyer, and a code word involving a monkey. This episode is full of moments that will resonate. Being thrown in the deep end as a 23-year-old PM on a major school project with no real blueprint. Being told "don't run before you can walk" the day she handed in her notice. The worst interview of her career for a job she absolutely should have got, and did, because someone in the room backed her anyway. Emma is thoughtful, driven and completely honest about the moments that shaped her. Including the ones where she had no idea what she was doing and did it anyway. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes This season, we're delighted to be supported by Cripps, a Top 100 UK law firm proud to champion female leaders and help drive meaningful change.

Rochelle Wright: The Electrician Fighting for Change

New Tracks | Episode 5 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Rochelle Wright is an electrician at PPS Electrical, working on the Sellafield nuclear site in the Lake District. She is also a bodybuilder, a mum, and the founder of Herbasix, a platform she is building to give workers in construction a way to report harassment, access support, and actually be heard. She wanted to be an electrician at school. She was talked out of it. At 25, she decided she was doing it anyway, and she has not looked back since. What makes Rochelle's episode so compelling is not just what she has done, but how honest she is about why she did it. The Unite the Union survey that changed everything. The day she cried in a toilet on site and drove home without explaining why. She is also, it has to be said, brilliant company. This one is warm, funny, and completely unfiltered. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes This series is proudly supported by JAC Project Management.

Emily Smith: Are You Sitting At The Right Table?

Emily Smith has a way of making the bold look straightforward. She moved countries at 12, survived being buried eight feet under snow in an avalanche at 21, handed in her notice when she felt undervalued, and walked into a room and won Woman of the Year to make a point. None of it was reckless. All of it was deliberate. Emily is now CEO of Argyll, a property business with 23 buildings across prime Central London. She has been with the company in various forms since 2005, rebuilding it, leaving it, being headhunted back, and eventually stepping into the top job in January this year. The story of how she got there is not a straight line, and that is exactly what makes it worth listening to. In this episode she talks about knowing when you have done everything you can at a table that will never truly see you, and having the courage to get up and find a better one. She talks about culture, about ambition that has nothing to do with money, and about the moment she went on a walk in Devon and decided she was ready. There is also an avalanche. You will want to hear that part. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes This season, we're delighted to be supported by Cripps, a Top 100 UK law firm proud to champion female leaders and help drive meaningful change.

Grace Allen: How To Be Successful Before You’re 25

Most people spend their twenties figuring out what they want to do. Grace Allen spent hers building a company. Grace is the founder of Sable & Sage, a project management and quantity surveying consultancy she set up while completing her chartership, and now, while expecting her first baby. She is, as Zoe puts it, the youngest business owner to appear on Places She Shapes, and she is absolutely someone to watch. Her route into the industry wasn't the obvious one. Grace chose a degree apprenticeship over university at 18, against her parents' wishes, walked into a corporate environment straight from school, and never really looked back. What she spotted was a gap in the market, smaller hospitality projects that the big firms wouldn't touch, and she backed herself to fill it. This episode is honest and quietly inspiring. Grace talks about what it feels like to be the only woman in the room, how she's learning to trust her own expertise when senior clients push back, and why she thinks women need to stop waiting for the right time. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes

Tamsin Bennett: Construction, Grief, and Resilience

Season 3 | Episode 2 – Places She Shapes with Zoe Smeeth Some careers make sense on paper. Tamsin Bennett's makes sense when you hear her tell it. Tamsin is Senior Technical Manager at Wates Development, one of the UK's largest construction and development companies. She's spent her career in one of the most male-dominated industries going, and the route she took to get where she is today was anything but straightforward. It went through a civil engineering degree, construction sites, a sewer under Oxford Street, and a sales job she didn't love, before she finally landed where she was always meant to be. When she realised she was on the wrong path, she did something most people only talk about. She walked away from a good salary, started again from the bottom, and backed herself when very few people would have. There's a moment in this episode where she talks about the man in a pub who changed the entire direction of her life. And another where she opens up about loss, and the one small question that can make all the difference to someone going through it. Honest, funny, and completely herself, Tamsin is exactly the kind of guest this podcast exists for. Search 'Places She Shapes' to find us on all your favourite podcast platforms or use the link in bio! 📺 Watch full episodes on YouTube: @PlacesSheShapes ✨ Stay connected, follow us on TikTok: @PlacesSheShapes

Kelly Cates: The Road To Match Of The Day

What does it take to step into one of the biggest jobs in British broadcasting, with the whole country watching? Kelly Cates spent nine years honing her craft at Sky Sports News, made a leap into the unknown at 30 with no job to go to, and built a career defined by preparation, self-belief, and knowing when to just say yes. Then came Match of the Day. In this episode, Kelly talks about the screen test, the senior director who quietly cleared obstacles she didn't even know were there, and the mantra that got her through her first night presenting one of the most iconic programmes on British television. She is honest about what women in broadcasting still face, why confidence matters more than competence, and what emotionally intelligent leadership looks like in practice. Kelly's episode is the perfect way to open Season 3.

Season 2

Michelle “Mitch” Lloyd Jones: Against All Odds, Into the Sky

Michelle “Mitch” Lloyd Jones knew from the moment her father took her to air shows that she wanted to be a pilot. But when she first applied to the RAF, women had only just been accepted as aircrew - and she was offered a commission as an air traffic controller instead. She didn’t stop there. Mitch reapplied, was selected to be a fighter pilot, and went on to fly the Tornado F3, deployed to exercises across the globe. After two years on squadron, she found her real passion teaching as a qualified flying instructor. Today, she trains generations of fast jet pilots and works with Ascent Flight Training on the Texan aircraft as part of the UK’s military flying training system. In this episode, Mitch shares the sliding door moments, the challenges she overcame as one of the first female fighter pilot instructors in the UK, and what it really takes to step into the cockpit when the odds are against you. Her story is unforgettable. 🎧 Now streaming on all podcast platforms - don’t miss it: https://pod.link/1812292057 You can now watch full Season 2 episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PlacessheShapes ✨ Stay connected - follow us on TikTok and Instagram: Places She Shapes

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