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In this episode, Ontie shares exciting news about her nephew, who has been making impressive progress on his lacrosse team.

Then the two dive into a lively and thoughtful discussion about the book Apple in China. Antie Joan cites numbers of dollars and employees Apple employed in China in the past 20 years.

Now we invite you to sit back, relax and enjoy!

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