Real love rarely grows from certainty. More often, it takes the courage to stay open after you’ve already been hurt. And a lot of that comes down to seeing the difference between trusting another person and trusting yourself — because expectations can sink a relationship before it’s even begun. In this episode, we put the spotlight on the slow, unglamorous work of choosing someone again and again. In this episode we discuss a couple of hearts that have been broken plenty of times but never once destroyed.

Meet Louisa & Emily—two creatives, long-standing friends, and seekers of meaning in the everyday. For over two decades,

Louisa has redefined what interior design can be through her pioneering studio, House of Grey. A visionary in her field, she has championed a whole-person, whole-world approach to design, proving that sustainabi ...