This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Heidi Wentworth-Ping talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice as a documentary and commercial photographer and working across the globe on projects that centre people and places through a contemplative gaze.

Heidi Wentworth-Ping is a Melbourne-based photographer, visual artist and educator whose practice moves freely between documentary, commercial, fine-art and even visual-effects work, refusing the idea that an artist must sit in one box.

More on Heidi Wentworth-Ping at www.heidiwentworthping.com @theheidipie and Pia @piajohnsonphotography on Instagram. If you've enjoyed this episode, please leave us your feedback ...