This week's episode is piping hot! In an exclusive interview with one of the founders of Latter Day Cafe, Michael Draper, Jake and Dusti ask the questions we've all been wanting to ask. Michael debunks some issues from the article that was read in episode 17 (listen to that episode to understand this episode more fully). Digressions include: soaking, holiday traditions, Rick and Morty, and puppies. Grab a cup of coffee, or coffee-less coffee, get cozy, and listen!