Pastor talks to first-timer on the show, Rev Felicia Y. Collins, his former pastor and present colleague. They talk about Griddy, growing up, what God has done, the challenges of ministry, and they remember Christine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUIXU3iTNxc&t=207s "Even Pastors Bleed" - Ordination Sermon, 26th WNY Annual Conference, Rev James C. Simmons