Dan Ryan, Executive Director of NatCon Australia and Jordan Knight, Founder of Migration Watch get together on the day of Donald Trump formally takes office.

We discuss among other things:

• The aesthetic of the new right and how Trump's use of YMCA as his campaign theme song fits in to it - or does it?
• How serious is Trump about annexing Canada and whether there is some deeper logic behind it as a way of getting other Anglophone countries to man up
• The reaction from the mainstream left and right in Australia to the Trump victory and whether there is any evidence they understand the national conservative agenda
• Marco Rubio confirmation hearing speech to be new US Secretary of State, how he is political astute, and talks in a way no Australian politician yet does on trade, immigration and foreign policy