MEER Podcast

MEER Podcast

by MEER (Mirrors for Earth's Energy Rebalancing)
MEER Podcast - 19. Deep Adaptation, Climate Risk, and What Comes Next with Jem Bendell
Description In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we are joined by Professor Jem Bendell, author, researcher, and originator of the influential Deep Adaptation framework, for a wide-ranging conversation about climate risk, societal disruption, and how our understanding of the climate crisis has evolved. Jem reflects on the ideas behind his consequential 2018 Deep Adaptation paper and revisits some of its most disputed arguments in light of what has happened since. We discuss what Deep Adaptation got right, why its conclusions generated such intense controversy, and what the response to the paper can teach us about the way academia, institutions, and the wider climate movement engage with uncomfortable evidence and possibilities. The conversation explores the growing evidence of accelerating climate disruption, the lessons that can be learned from those who anticipated these risks earlier, and why acknowledging severe climate threats does not have to mean giving up on meaningful action. We also discuss Jem's wider work on the "metacrisis" — the interconnected ecological, economic, social, and political pressures facing societies — and the need to think beyond conventional approaches to climate change as the consequences become increasingly difficult to ignore. Rather than reducing the climate conversation to optimism versus pessimism, this episode asks a more important question: what can we learn from the warnings of the past, and how should that knowledge shape what we do next? Relevant Links: A Dozen Disputed but Now Demonstrable Facts About Climate Change from the Consequential Deep Adaptation Paper of 2018 – Prof Jem Bendell https://jembendell.com/ Jem Bendell – Website https://jembendell.com/ Deep Adaptation Forum https://www.deepadaptation.info/ The Metacrisis Initiative https://jembendell.com/metacrisis-initiative/ Learn More at meer.org
18. Storytelling, Culture, and the Climate Narrative with Aria McKenna
In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we are joined by writer, director, and climate advocate Aria McKenna to explore the powerful role of storytelling in shaping public understanding of the climate crisis. The conversation examines how film, television, and culture influence climate narratives, the origins of the Healthy Planet Action Coalition, the concept of the "climate triad," and Aria's upcoming project Revolution Earth. Together, we discuss what today's climate storytelling gets right and where it falls short, while exploring how compelling narratives can inspire action, hope, and meaningful change. Revolution Earth – https://www.revolutionearth.tv/ Saving Planet Us – https://www.savingplanetus.com/ Healthy Planet Action Coalition – https://healthyplanetaction.org/ Global Cooling Productions - www.globalcoolingproductions.com Safe Climate Alliance - https://www.safeclimatealliance.org/ Aria's Pre-Climate Work - http://www.ariamckenna.com/index.html Learn more about meer at meer.org
17. Beyond Carbon: Forest Cooling & Planetary Regulation with Rob de Laet
What if climate change cannot be understood through carbon emissions alone? In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we speak with Rob de Laet about planetary energy balance, forest cooling, biohydrology, latent heat transport, atmospheric moisture regulation, and the role of ecosystems in stabilizing Earth's climate. The conversation explores how forests, clouds, water cycles, and atmospheric processes interact within a connected Earth system, and whether climate science and policy may benefit from a broader framework that looks beyond carbon accounting alone. Learn more about Rob's work: EcoRestoration Alliance: https://www.ecorestorationalliance.org/ Global EverGreening Alliance: https://www.evergreening.org/ Cooling The Climate: https://www.coolingtheclimate.earth/ Read his book: https://books.google.com/books/about/Cooling_the_Climate.html?id=yicwEQAAQBAJ
16. The Green Mirage — Truth, Hope, and Survival with Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa
In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we speak with physician, environmental filmmaker, and activist Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa, director of Endgame 2050 and Greenwashed. Together, we explore the links between human and planetary health, the psychology of climate denial, the rise of greenwashing, and the role of storytelling in confronting ecological collapse. Sofia reflects on her transition from medicine to filmmaking, the making of her documentaries, and why honest conversations about the climate crisis are more important than ever. Despite the difficult realities discussed, the episode also highlights resilience, local action, and the quieter forms of hope emerging around the world. Watch Endgame 2050 and Greenwashed through the links below. Greenwashed: https://youtu.be/XjWUKFUaoL4?si=k9Il_VdTGV15XSfU Endgame 2050: https://youtu.be/o8YomEOExkc?si=Nj2sNvczbKoTRjaJ --- Learn more about MEER’s climate adaptation and cooling projects at https://www.meer.org.
15. Forests as the Beating Heart: The Biotic Pump Theory with Dr. Anastassia Makarieva
In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we speak with theoretical physicist Dr. Anastassia Makarieva, known for her work on the biotic pump theory — a framework that reexamines how forests influence Earth’s climate system. Rather than viewing forests solely as carbon sinks, Dr. Makarieva explains how they may actively drive atmospheric circulation and rainfall patterns across continents. Through the process of transpiration and condensation, forests can influence pressure systems, drawing moisture inland and sustaining hydrological cycles far beyond their boundaries. The conversation explores the origins of the biotic pump theory, its scientific implications, and why it challenges conventional climate models. The discussion also touches on the risks of deforestation, including the potential disruption of rainfall systems and large-scale drying of continental interiors. You can learn more on her Substack here: https://bioticregulation.substack.com/
14. Brazil, the Amazon, and the Climate Story with Monica Piccinini
Brazilian journalist Monica Piccinini joins the MEER Podcast to discuss the Amazon rainforest and the complex environmental, political, and economic forces shaping Brazil today. Drawing on her reporting on deforestation, indigenous rights, agribusiness, and environmental policy, she offers a sobering look at the realities on the ground and explains why the future of the Amazon has global implications for climate, water systems, and communities far beyond Brazil. Medium: https://monicapiccinini.medium.com/ Substack: https://substack.com/@yourvoiz Website: https://yourvoiz.org/ Learn more at meer.org
13. The Climate Acceleration Debate: Could 3°C Arrive by 2050? with Dr. Klaus Ritcher
In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Klaus Richter, physicist and President of the German Physical Society. Dr. Richter recently co-authored a joint statement with the German Meteorological Society that drew global attention, warning that the Earth could warm by as much as 3°C by 2050 if current trends continue. The statement — and the DIE ZEIT article that followed — sparked widespread debate about how fast the climate is changing and how society should respond. Read the article discussed in this episode: https://worldcrunch.com/focus/green-or-gone/global-warming-at-3c-by-2050-what-s-behind-the-new-german-climate-warning/ Read the statement here: https://www.dpg-physik.de/veroeffentlichungen/publikationen/stellungnahmen-der-dpg/klima-energie/klimaaufruf/ Learn more at meer.org
12. Building a Climate-Ready Majority with Rupert Read & Liam Kavanagh
In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we are joined by Rupert Read and Liam Kavanagh, co-directors of the Climate Majority Project and authors of the SAFER report. Together, they explore why climate adaptation must move from the margins to the center of climate action, how strategic adaptation can unite communities across political divides, and what it means to build a broad, inclusive “climate majority.” The conversation bridges science, psychology, policy, and practical examples of community-led resilience—offering listeners a grounded, actionable vision for adapting to a rapidly heating world. Read the SAFER Report HERE: https://usercontent.one/wp/climatemajorityproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Action-for-the-Majority-November-2025-1.pdf?media=1764599038 Climate Majority Project: https://climatemajorityproject.com/
11. A Climate Reality Check with Eliot Jacobson
In this episode of The MEER Podcast, we speak with Dr. Eliot Jacobson about what the climate data actually shows behind global summits, temperature targets, and public narratives. The conversation moves from COP outcomes to Earth’s energy imbalance, declining planetary reflectivity, polar ice trends, and the risks of underestimating the pace of warming, with a focus on clarity, evidence, and physical reality over political optimism. Eliot Jacobson is a mathematician, retired professor, and widely followed independent climate analyst. Known for his rigorous, data-driven approach, he tracks global temperature trends, sea-ice loss, and Earth’s energy imbalance, translating complex climate science into clear insights while actively countering misinformation. Eliot's website: https://climatecasino.net/ Eliot's Social Media: X: https://x.com/EliotJacobson?s=20 Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/climatecasino.net Explore MEER's work: https://www.meer.org/
10. The Nemesis of Planet A with Martin Palmer
In this episode we’re joined by Martin Palmer, author of The Nemesis of Planet A: Is the Human Race Sleepwalking Towards Its Own Extinction? and founder of the Rotaract (Net Zero) initiative within Rotary International. Martin is a member of Rotary International and is helping launch a new wave of Rotaract Net Zero clubs, which place climate action at their core — Rotaract is a club format suited to young adults, ages 18 – 30 . Martin has partnered with MEER to help make this vision real. Link to Martin's book, "The Nemesis of Planet A - Is The Human Race Sleep Walking Towards Its Own Extinction?" : https://amzn.eu/d/elJ8Za8 Chelwood Bridge Rotary Net-Zero: https://www.chelwoodbridgerotary-netzero.org/ Explore MEER's work: https://www.meer.org/
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