Kinder Things kicks off 2026 with a full-circle conversation about time, growth, and the music that carry us through it. Host Mike Shaw sits down with Kenny Vasoli of The Starting Line and Vacationer to talk about Eternal Youth—the first Starting Line album in 18 years.

Kenny talks about writing songs that feel lived-in rather than engineered, pushing back against algorithmic creativity and AI-flattened music culture in favor of something unmistakably human.

Conversation also touches upon 2025 being a milestone year for Kenny be ...