In this episode, Lyric Hughes Hale—an instrumental voice and founder in independent economic and financial journalism—and Claudia discuss their journey coming up together in the Chicago business community and how their careers have grown since those early beginnings. CMFTO has been there for Lyric through two important, complex moves: first from the city to Winnetka with a huge library of books in tow, and then from Winnetka to a unique, four-story home in the city where Lyric made her own Japanese garden. Listen to hear more about these moves and how these two women have impacted each other’s lives and careers.

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