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Yeah, I was taught that He chose those whom He foreknew. He knew who was going to believe—that was His foreknowledge. Therefore, He chose those. I’m just telling you what I was taught.

I’ve heard that before. Yeah, that’s an Arminian view of it.

Yeah, it was a twisted Arminian view. But that’s so skewed.

Well, I’m just saying—the whole conversation was that it’s because of His grace, but you’ve got to choose it.

Yeah, I had to choose it. If you choose it, He foreknows you’re going to.

The more Calvinist view was that He just made an arbitrary choice.

Yeah—out of the masses, He picked. Out of His love, He picked these. So He had this arbitrary—I call it an arbitrary—choice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those were the only two ways to look at it.

Yeah. And then you realize that,  ...