The Dark Night returns once again. Our hosts examine Matt Reeves' brand-new noir thriller "The Batman" in contrast with Tim Burton's gothic fantasy "Batman Returns". Dezil and Reeser discuss the varied interpretations of Catwoman and The Penguin and how Batman's cultural significance has evolved over time. Today's guest: creative director and VFX artist Justin Johnson.

SPOILER ALERT WARNING for all who haven't seen both films.