In this episode of Deep Naked Thoughts, Val sits down with Myrna Trujillo, a Board-Certified Behavior Analyst, to explore her journey through ABA, leadership, and personal growth. Myrna shares how behavior science has shaped not only her career, but the way she communicates, leads, and shows up in the world. Together, they discuss empathy, advocacy, motherhood, and how ABA extends far beyond autism. This is a grounded, human conversation about becoming, purpose, and finding yourself along the way.