Join Val and Nick Tellez in this powerful episode of Deep Naked Thoughts as they explore the journey from healthcare to rock climbing and the deeper meaning behind doing hard things.

Nick opens up about how climbing, community, and personal growth have shaped his life—and how helping others has helped him discover himself. Val dives into authenticity, choosing your “hard,” and following the paths that genuinely bring joy.

Together, they unpack what it means to stay curious, embrace challenge, build community, and find fulfillment in unexpected places.

Whether you're a climber, a creative, a healer, or someone navigating your own transformation, this conversation will leave you feeling inspired, grounded, and ready to explore your next peak.

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