At just 27 years old, Karoline Leavitt became the youngest White House press secretary in American history—and in this episode, the hosts ask a provocative question: is she really the new “first lady of power,” not through policy, but through pure narrative control?

This Deep Dive episode traces Leavitt’s meteoric rise from small-town New Hampshire to the center of the West Wing. The hosts walk you through her roots in family small business, her years as the “token conservative” on a liberal campus, and the 2016 college op-ed that reads almost like a manifesto for her later war on “fake news.” You’ll hear how her early distrust of the media wasn’t a convenient talking point adopted later, but a core belief that shaped her entire political trajectory.

From there, the conversation follows her fast climb ...